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  1. (Long) Hot take: Looking back at Mr. Enter's indiegogo campaign for Growing Around, I feel kinda bad for its failure, primarily because of the general response that it got. While I can agree that it felt too ambitious, I've seen some people criticizing it for being mismanaged and because of Mr. Enter's little to no experience in the entertainment industry field.

    Enter was completely honest and clear about the project that he was pitching, and he was also mature about answering some questions people had about the campaign. In no way did Enter make his campaign look like a scam nor did he antagonize those who didn't support it nor saw the failure of his campaign as a flat-out failure.

    He was passionate about trying to reach out to his viewers to help realize his vision, and yet some people still called him out for how he presented his campaign because...he's Mr. Enter. He over-analyzes cartoons so therefore we just can't take him seriously.

    I was turned off by Butch's OAXIS campaign because I thought it felt insincere, and it really showed once the truth came out. He had also expressed that people who haven't done anything of their own aren't worth his time. Most of us called him out for this and yet Mr. Enter still gets shunned despite that he's developing something of his own and wants to at least earn enough for his campaign so he could realize part of his vision by completing a pilot episode. 

    I'm speaking as someone who has made crappy animated episode reviews ages ago on TV.com, while still getting around and talking about my acquired knowledge of animation and its industry as well as, of course, analyzing cartoons. I'm also speaking as someone who is still on his way of getting his Associate's in art so he can eventually study abroad in animation although while not being very skilled in drawing - or at least that's how he feels.

    If you think that I shouldn't feel bad about not having enough experience in the art/animation field, then that's the point I'm making about why I respect Mr. Enter for making a campaign so he could perhaps then be able to share his passion project, despite having little to no experience in art or working in entertainment.

    1. Prime Jedi

      Prime Jedi

      Agreed. While I don't like Mr. Enter, and thought that his campaign didn't make much sense, I wish (and still kinda hope) that he would be able to make the series. I understand that many didn't like his premise for the series, and I thought it was kinda meh, it was still something he was passionate about, and everyone's gotta start somewhere. Also, I feel bad, because he got borderline harassed for it like all over Youtube, and he didn't deserve that.

    2. Clappy

      Clappy

      We talked about this on Discord yesterday and it's quite easy to see why this project of his didn't take off.  The fact that he requested $350,000 is incredibly asinine.  I'm not against people living their dreams.  Everyone should follow them, including Mr. Enter.  But there is no way in hell he should be requesting THAT much money from his fans.  Not only because he doesn't have the following he once did, his peak popularity has long since passed.  But even if he was still in his prime popularity phase, no chance in hell would he even have the following to raise that amount of money.

      Yeah we can rag on Butch Hartman all we want for being a piece of shit and his true colors coming out the way it did during his OAXIS fundraising, but name recognition played a huge part in him reaching his goal amount.  He, at least used to, have millions and millions of fans.  Enter, even at his peak, would be lucky to have even a tenth of that.  Also, after watching the trailer for said campaign, he had sketches of what things would look like.  Actual animation at one point in that trailer would have gone a long way in showing what he had planned for the long scheme of things.

      Like I said, he should follow his dream.  But he should have aimed for more realistic goals.

    3. Steel Sponge

      Steel Sponge

      I'll admit that i took my thoughts on the campaign first-hand before realizing if I missed something. The fact that Mr. Enter did ask for too much for his campaign's goal was its pitfall, but it still doesn't change my view on how I felt Mr. Enter presented it in contrast to how OAXIS was presented. Butch was met with some controversy AFTER his project managed to reach its goal and it took until an apology letter to address concerns people had with it and to tell his audience what the platform is really going to be about.

      I had to make this rambling where I compare the two projects because I found it discerning how wide the dislike-like ratio was for Mr. Enter's pitch video in comparison to the dislike-like ratio to Butch's announcement video for OAXIS before controversy hit. I mean, it was just so easy to rag on Mr. Enter, but when he's sincere and vocal about his project, I couldn't see myself being against his campaign.

      Point taken though that he should shoot for more realistic goals for Growing Around. It's like what I said when I pointed out that Mr. Enter does have little experience in entertainment from an industry-like standpoint. I can see why Mr. Enter presented it in a fashion where he doesn't want it to be in corporate hands because he, like just about anyone else, finds the entertainment industry too dodgy to believe that whatever network he works for will allow him to have complete creative control.

      In short, while I do agree that Mr. Enter did manage his campaign a little more idealistically, it at least wasn't handled in a worse way.

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