Cha Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Bringing this topic here too. Basically this: Mr. Krabs sells SpongeBob's soul, defies a grave to sell a soda hat and hides a man' body who he thinks is dead in pre-movie episodes. Yet people still say Krabs is more greedier in post movie episodes. I get that Mr. Krabs is cheap the the point where he looks for a penny for a whole episode. He use to be a father figure of SB, but money is all he thinks about now, yes I know. But doesn't it seem like those few deeds in pre-movie are even more greedier? Yes, Krabs apologies to SpongeBob at the end of Born Again Krabs. It's kind of like how Squidward abuse was in pre-movie seasons. We had episodes like the Camping Episode, yet you barely see anyone riff off of it for the abuse. What do you think? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Nug Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 The difference is that money wasn't Mr. Krabs's whole personality and that, along with the Camping Episode, it was funny. SpongeBob's comedy rides a slippery slope where if you're going to do a cliched joke like Mr. Krabs's money lust or abusing Squidward, you have to literally exaggerate things to a point where they're so ridiculous that they're funny. The pre-movie seasons handle that ridiculousness well. If "The Camping Episode" was done now, the Post-Movie writers, no offense meant to them, would most likely have the episode mostly focused on SpongeBob and Patrick annoying Squidward in the tent and end with Squidward going crazy and running back home. That's not funny, that's just abusing a character. If you are going to abuse a character, go all the way, which is what "The Campinge Episode" did- SpongeBob and Patrick did a whole song, Squidward got mauled by a Sea Bear for no other reason than "it was funny", and against all odds, he failed at even making a tent. That's so ridiculous that it's funny. It's the same with Eugene. Eugene going to such lengths to get 62 cents from the Dutchman- literally selling SpongeBob's soul- is so ridiculous and stupid on his part that it was funny, and even if it wasn't, Krabs apologized at the end, which was nice and rectified what he did. This is different from "Penny Foolish" because PF doesn't go as far as it needed to. Eugene makes a slideshow and a movie theater and stalks SpongeBob for a penny in PF, and that's relatively tame. And because nothing is so stupidly outlandish or funny in that episode, the comedy falls flat and people look at the character flaws Krabs presents in the episode. If Krabs had, say, made a dramatic short film, or even kidnapped SpongeBob (in a non-creepy way, of course) the episode would have been funny because of how ridiculous it was. The problem now is that Mr. Krabs's money fetish isn't ridiculous anymore. It's just a tired joke that's swallowed up his character, and thus, it feels perfunctory, and because it's so tame, but at the same time, all he does, it feels more realistic. Add to the fact that money love and cheapness are two of, if not Mr. Krabs only traits that he portrays, non-outlandishly, in almost every episode, whereas Pre-Movie, he wasn't always cheap and when he was, it was so ridiculous it was funny? Yeah. It's definitely worse Post-Movie. SpongeBob is an animated comedy. If things aren't pushed to their very limit at the right time, the comedy falls flat. EDIT: oh, Safe Deposit Krabs is a terrific example of Mr. Krabs's money lust played insanely well. Having hallucinations with a money wife and a money dragon was great and totally out there, and something I'd like to see more of in the show. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crushingmayhem Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 He seemed worse in some pre-movie episodes like in Born Again Krabs for example where he traded Spongebob for 62 cents. But he probably is much more greedy post-movie since most of the characters changed after that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squidward1066 Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 I agree with you, ChillBob, that he does far more greedy things post-movie. I mean, in "SpongeBob, You're Fired" he fires SpongeBob over a nickel. Given that SpongeBob's cooking comprises the Krusty Krab's entire income, I think he's definitely got greedier post-movie. Also, two words: Penny Foolish. ~Squidward1066 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWM Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 To me, Mr. Krabs was a lot more greedy in post-movie. Examples: SpongeBob, You're Fired!- Firing SB over a f**king nickel. The Krabby Kronicle- Overworking SpongeBob until he finally snaps, and from then on making counterfeit money. Penny Foolish- No explanation necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cha Posted December 2, 2013 Author Share Posted December 2, 2013 tl:dr post movie side of thread debate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXvHz6PW6Ck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squidward1066 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 To me, Mr. Krabs was a lot more greedy in post-movie. Examples: SpongeBob, You're Fired!- Firing SB over a f**king nickel.The Krabby Kronicle- Overworking SpongeBob until he finally snaps, and from then on making counterfeit money.Penny Foolish- No explanation necessary. Precisely my opinion. The writers need to think about altering Mr Krabs' character from the way he appeared in those episodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpongebobsDecline2004 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 In the pre movie era, he loved Pearl, and MoneyNow, in the post movie era, he just loves money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lion King Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 In the pre movie era, he loved Pearl, and MoneyNow, in the post movie era, he just loves money I'm pretty sure that Mr. Krabs still loves Pearl. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpongebobsDecline2004 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 3 words: the slumber party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terminoob Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Yeah, and Squidward's also more grumpy, Spongebob's more annoying, and Patrick's more clueless. That's what happens when shows go on for this long; every character begins to embody one trait and they lose all other qualities about themselves because people begin to associate characters with certain things. It happened on Friends, How I Met Your Mother, Family Guy, The Simpsons, Seinfeld, and it's happening here. It's easier to write one-note characters than it is to write characters with dimension to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crushingmayhem Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 He didn't show that much affection towards Pearl on Whale of a Birthday, but at least he ordered Spongebob to get her what she wanted. Thus, indifferently liking her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpongebobsDecline2004 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 It's a Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wumbo Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 He didn't show that much affection towards Pearl on Whale of a Birthday, but at least he ordered Spongebob to get her what she wanted. Thus, indifferently liking her. How do you indifferently like someone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crushingmayhem Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 How do you indifferently like someone? By not admitting it but still expressing internal feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almy Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 These in my opinion are the moments where Mr. Krabs was way too greedy (but sometimes in a funny way): SQUID ON STRIKE- THE BILL BREATHING- $1.00 TALKING- $5.00 STANDING- $10.00 EXISTING- $2.00 LOLLYGAGGING- $2.00 CHEWING- $1.00 BORN AGAIN KRABS YOU CAN HAVE YOUR FRY COOK OR YOUR MONEY, KRABS! ONE OR THE OTHER That depends. How much money we talkin' about? 62 CENTS! Okay I'll take the money. PENNY FOOLISH need i say more? THE CENT OF MONEY once again, need i say more? SPONGEBOB IS FIRED DER I'LL FIRE YOU BECAUSE OF A NICKEL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clappy Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Yeah, and Squidward's also more grumpy, Spongebob's more annoying, and Patrick's more clueless. That's what happens when shows go on for this long; every character begins to embody one trait and they lose all other qualities about themselves because people begin to associate characters with certain things. It happened on Friends, How I Met Your Mother, Family Guy, The Simpsons, Seinfeld, and it's happening here. It's easier to write one-note characters than it is to write characters with dimension to them.I seriously couldn't like this statement any more if I tried. Terminoob stated it best about one dimensional characters. To list off more examples: Two and a Half Men, The Big Bang Theory, Phineas & Ferb, The Fairly Oddparents, iCarly, Victorious. One note characters are very easy to write. Not saying that it's a bad thing because I like all these shows (or at least use to in some cases) listed. The problem is if the idea well runs dry for ways to exploit the one dimension of a character. Which is probably why we get so many Plankton episodes of SpongeBob in the latter years because how many more episodes can they do that revolve around Mr. Krabs obsession with money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie Williams Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Mr krabs isn't even as greedy as most people say. He just wants money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Less_SpongeBob Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Of (one) course (meal) he is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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