The Incredibles 2

[kylie]

-Evelyn being the Screenslaver became so apparent to me the moment she was on screen that it didn't even feel like a reveal, let alone a turning point in the film. In general, this villain is not one I'm a fan of-- there's a scene near the middle where Helen beats some random pizza delivery boy's ass (okay it's more complex than that,) and while she's looking for him, it's overlayed with some completely inane monologue about society today and our obsession with TV and the like. Barring that this scene would meet the requirements for submission on r/iamverysmart, it felt to me that very little was done with Screenslaver in this regard afterward, and she acted as a pretty standard villain for the rest of the film without much indication that she was trying to teach any sort of message. The motivations for the villain made just as little sense to me, as it seems senseless for Evelyn to want to put an outright ban on all Supers because they "make people less motivated to do things themselves" without also wanting to put a ban on any other crime-fighting figure in society? Why are the Supers the only characters towards which she has a vendetta? 

-The constant cutting between Bob/Helen certainly worked cinematically but I was certainly not equally invested in the stories, and in all honesty the stuff with Bob never particularly interested me. Violet's story barely made any sense considering the stage of the relationship they were in at that point, which I feel could've been resolved if we hadn't started exactly where we left off. Bob caring for his children is heartwarming but still doesn't warrant the chunk of the movie it takes up. Jack Jack = best kid. 

-The timeframe for the legalization of the supers was way too short and Elastagirl alone doing a few good things should not have made enough of an impact to change a federal law. All of that was just far too convenient for me. The final battle on the boat was a great moment although I feel that Helen finding a random weapon on the ground was a touch bit contrived. The new supers also play a bit more of a role here, yet still their presence feels wholly unnecessary throughout besides giving us a few new characters.

-The humor in the movie  (when it isn't entirely Jack Jack-reliant) was pretty solid, one of the best examples being when Bob takes Violet to the restaurant where Tony works. The entire dynamic of that scene worked really well and was one of the few times I enjoyed the family's story. Edna's return was also a bit of a saving grace as Jack Jack brought out some great untapped elements in her persona. The action was also on point which some revamped animation definitely helped guide.

 

[kev]

Spoiler

-that tonal shift between the “Bao” short and Incredibles 2 was awkward as hell, pixar lmao. like that transition from that emotional (i think the older crowd maybe) scene of dumpling child getting eaten to - YO TIME TO DEFEAT UNDERMINER is laughable.

-first two acts were pretty good. i feel underwhelmed about the third act. maybe was waiting for something more grand. oh well.

-i’ve been hearing a lot about how the Voyd was the standout regarding new supers characters... i mean sure? she was likeable and her powers are def interesting but she was given more to do compared to the other supers, who we kinda skimmed  over them as oh guy with lightning powers, guy who spits out lava. oh he’s a beast !

-can’t remember or think of a single dull moment in this movie. it’s great to see these characters again. 

-jack-jack vs. that raccoon was honestly worth the ticket. really expected a follow up on that later on in the movie, considering that raccoon was all over marketing, but it never did.

-with the first movie still fresh in mind, i preferred the action sequences in the first movie. felt more like a natural balance between  action sequences (everything on the island) than the action sets in the second movie (don’t wanna deviate from still how well crafted and entertaining these set pieces were).

-like above, i wish screenslaver was more utilized than just being “a character”. the ideas and thoughts from slaver’s first monologue (about “obsession with tech and the like^^”) just weren’t present and forgotten after in favor of “we shouldn’t depend on supers”. if you really want to stick to an overarching motive, stick to it.

-all this doesn’t mean i didn’t like the movie. i absolutely enjoyed every minute of this movie. there’s just some stuff that stuck out to me prominently. i’ll probably have more to touch upon later on.

[70s]

I just saw the movie and I've been reading through the thread and while I don't necessarily disagree with some of the criticisms I've seen in here, I just didn't have anything negative to say when I left the theater. Right now I'm just so glad this movie happened, it may take a second watch to view it with a more critical eye.

[WoahResurrectedCrap22]

I loved it. I absolutely loved it so much. THEY UPPED EVERYTHING, from the animation to the freakin' action, not to mention how freakin' amazing all the characters are, from the old ones to the new ones.

I guess my only gripe could be the villain, though to be honest, she's just a more adult and mature version of Syndrome. But still, I FREAKIN' loved this film.

[NegiSpongie]

I really liked the movie as well. Though I agree the villain is predictable, I still enjoyed it. Pretty surprised by how much "swearing" is in it as well for a Pixar film