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  1. 16 hours ago, CyanideFishbone said:

    5 is great too. All of 1-10 is great (Although I've never played 8). Also if you have a New 3DS, I'd recommend picking up X1-3, because that's also on the 3DS Virtual Console.

    You should. The corny voice acting is so bad, but in a good way.

    FWEEZE I'LL CWUSH YOU I'LL MAKE A POPSICLE OUTTA YOU

  2. 10 hours ago, 4EverGreen said:

    WOAH!!!! o.o We're REALLY getting off on a tangent HERE! Can we focus it back on the Netflix special like we're supposed to?

    terminoob and i were fighting

    9 hours ago, Hayden said:

    4Ever, as per usual, is the voice of reason.

    There is only one Ash Ketchum, and his character is not interchangeable every region. And contrary to popular belief, the anime has its own creative direction.

    There is one replaceable Ash Ketchum and his character arc can be concluded at the end of any region instead of having to be reset. There's no reason they should be unable to start a new generation with a new character if the games can do it. But agree to disagree because...

    16 hours ago, Metal Snake said:

    that's a completely different topic for another day.

    ...yeah.

    hayden and i were fighting

  3. 3 hours ago, jjsthekid said:

    They have white uniforms in them. Squidward's has blue stripes on it, Sandy's has Brown stripes, Gary's has green stripes, Patrick's has pink stripes and Spongebob's has Yellow stripes. They stand on the rubble of the bakery. A few fish start to laugh at their uniforms.

    So yeah, I'm still mystified by the reason they had to dress up as sailors...wearing colored stripes. Was it National Pride Day or did they just want to look fancy picking something up from the bakery?

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  4. 2 hours ago, terminoob said:

    Yeah, I know Steve wanted to leave (to pursue music, I think? Or other things, I know he did music after the fact though) - I said that wasn't even that apt of a comparison and acknowledged how different live-action and cartoons are, but it's a better comparison than Doctor Who where replacing actors is a staple of the show (much like the toy-promotion shows you mentioned, though obviously not in the same capacity or for the same reason). I mentioned voice actors in my original post as well (and how that would be more applicable to this situation than the changing of actors, because 4EverGreen mentioned no one caring about Doctor Who constantly going through actors); if they don't want to replace her then that's one thing I guess, but it's not like this is a straight-up continuation of the old show (as in: this isn't being marketed as a new season of Magic School Bus) or even really pandering to the demographic of people that grew up with it. It's a weird sort of reboot/spin-off deal and not wanting to replace the voice actor just feels odd because none of the kids are really gonna care since they didn't grow up with Ms. Frizzle and teenagers/young adults aren't exactly being factored into the equation with that so it's not like the creators are gonna care what we think; I guess it's a bit like Mermaid Man and Ernest Borgnine, but Spongebob is also still airing and it's not like Borgnine just didn't want to reprise his role - it was a classy move done out of respect for the actor (which they most certainly did not have to do because Mermaid Man is not the main character). If Spongebob had been off the air and came back as "Spongebob: Under Sea Adventures!" or something like that, then I wouldn't put it past them to have recast Mermaid Man (and again, he's not the main character; replacing him isn't the biggest deal in the world because he's not the focal point). Take another example I used in my original post - the Powerpuff Girls got recast no problem (if I'm remembering right the original actresses weren't even consulted about coming back, but I could be wrong on that) but the designs are still basically the same. Maybe it's a matter of Tomlin not wanting to do it and them making a new character out of respect because they didn't want to recast, maybe it's them making a new character because they want to be different, I don't know. It's just a weird move in my opinion, especially because Kate McKinnon is known for being zany and could've easily been a dynamite Ms. Frizzle.

    As for toy-promotion shows: I was trying to stay away from them just because of how obvious they were. My mind immediately jumped to Pokemon, but I thought "wait that doesn't count because they need to promote a game" and with this they aren't exactly promoting anything (and anything they could be promoting would probably be received better if it had Ms. Frizzle on it because it'd catch the eyes of people who grew up with the show and now if those same people see that product they'll go write a Buzzfeed article about how "you won't BELIEVE which 90s childhood hero of yours just got replaced" or something). I was trying to think more along the lines of a regular cartoon that mostly stands on its own.

    About Steven Burns moving on to music (which he did do), he debunked that as the reason himself in an interview, saying that the real reason was just that he "didn't want to spend his entire career as a children's show host". I also know very well that they were trying to be respectful to Ernest, but they also did that at the cost of upsetting fans of the MM & BB episodes. You can't please everyone, so stuff like that is always a massive gray area.

    I would've gone for Pokemon...had they not still be using Ash as the main protagonist despite it always being a different, interchangeable protagonist with each game. <_< Unless toys of him are really that popular, I don't really see the reason to keep using him when he's not even in the damn game, but that's a completely different topic for another day. Actually, no, it still relates to what I'm trying to say in saying that toy-promotion shows still count, because it all depends on what decisions are being made behind the scenes if the lead characters get replaced or not. Not to mention that marketing merchandise is even a thing with shows that are not made to promote toys. Look no further than some of the decisions Cartoon Network has made regarding toy promotion.

    If you really want to stand your ground on toy-promoting shows not counting, fine, Family Guy and South Park. I know they brought Brian and Kenny back, but they replaced Diane and Principal Victoria for good.

  5. On 9/8/2017 at 6:42 PM, terminoob said:

    Then I think you probably should've used a different quote to illustrate your point because regeneration isn't just a superficial change and it's been an established precedent for 50+ years. It's a bit different than creating a brand new lead character for no real reason. Remember in Blue's Clues when Steve left for college and then Joe took over and then everyone got super pissed because we loved Steve and Joe was a stupid-face? This is kind of like that (though not totally because switching main characters in live action is different than in cartoons and I know I said that in my previous post, but I can't think of a cartoon off the top of my head that's done this before).

    Steve left because his actor, Steven Burns, wanted to leave. He had just grown tired of working on the show and Nick understandably wanted to keep it going because it was still immensely popular. One thing that needs to be pointed out that many seem to gloss over with changes with characters in cartoons compared to live-action shows is voice actors. The rationale behind this change could be Lily Tomlin just not wanting to reprise her role and the makers of the reboot just thinking, "No one can replace Lily Tomlin as the old Mrs. Frizzle, so let's have a new voice actor voice a new Mrs. Frizzle". It happened with Ernest Borgnine on Spongebob, where they just completely stopped doing Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy episodes after he passed away because, "No one could replace Ernest.". It's possible that's not what happened here, but it shows something.

    Also, if you're looking for cartoons that have done that, toy-promotion shows, bruh. Hasbro probably has the best example of that with how they killed Optimus Prime and replaced him with Rodimus Prime in Transformers. And if anime counts, Beyblade and Yu-Gi-Oh! always change the main character cast with each new generation.

  6. 26 minutes ago, Sunshine Banjo Face said:

    I'm sensing a bit of a vague supernatural plot but I just did not get anything from any of the voice performances, "she's possesed, that sucks", "I feel no synergy" etc, all looks mediocre.

    Because those lines were jokes. If he didn't say them in an unenthused tone of voice, they wouldn't be funny. :P

    As usual, I actually think this looks fine, not sure what the problem is, that is all.

  7. Episode 18: Soul in Shadow

    Nero and Spira were walking through Princess Celestia and Luna's throne room. For more than seventeen years, their world had been without rulers…

    ...rulers that their world knew about, at least. Most had forgotten who their rulers were. Most had forgotten who was really running the show, willing to settle for the mere illusion of freedom. They had given up on making their own stories, and had allowed the two most mischievous gods to write their stories for them. Allowing them to tell them how they should live their lives, how they should react to their issues, even how they should think and feel. Like the world of Myra Michaels, this world too had been invaded by demons and evil forces from beyond. And while the church of Pies had used their influence to spread doubt of their existence to the people, Nero and Spira's eyes had become open to their ruse. Now that the world's rulers knew of their awareness, they had requested an audience with the two…

    "Ha ha ha," laughed Nero as both he and Spira looked upon who had been leading the world in Celestia and Luna's absence, "so this is the face of big brother. A ninja and a monster dressed like a priest. How cute and appropriate."

    Of course, the ones sitting upon their thrones were none other than Ninja Time God Rarity, wearing her garb that had an emblem of a sword on it, and Fantasy God Discord, wearing a white robe that had the emblem of a shield on it. Ever since the night Akame had been defeated after Celestia and Luna had been killed, they had been involving themselves more with the world of the heralds, establishing their reign to the knowledge of their royal subjects while keeping the rest of the world in the dark. Once they saw ponies in the general public arriving at the scene of the battle's aftermath and learning of their existence, they knew they had a cover story to prepare. Things needed to be edited, including the minds and memories of others…

    "Yes," replied NTG Rarity, "cute and appropriate. Just like you two."

    "What do you want from us?" Spira asked. "Are we to have our memories doctored for knowing too much? If that's what you're planning to do, you may as well kill us because we're not going to stand for you lying to our people."

    "Essentially…" Nero interjected as he prepared a ball of dark energy in his right hoof with a menacing smile on his face. "...prepare to fight if you want to do anything funny…"

    "Does that include telling jokes?" FG Discord retorted. "Ho ho ho ho ho!"

    "You don't have to beat around the bush," chimed in NTG Rarity, "we know what you want to do. You want to defeat us and take the throne for yourself. I'm afraid there are two major flaws with that plan, however."

    "Yawn." Nero made a rejoinder. "Like I haven't heard this one before. Just tell us what the other one is besides "the fact that we can't beat you"."

    "Actually," replied FG Discord in a cheeky tone, "the first flaw is that you can't beat us unless we allow it. Huge detail you overlooked there. But the second, more important one that you overlooked is that we have no intent to fight for the throne because we don't want it."

    "Huh?" Spira and Nero both made a confused response. "What are you talking about, I thought you needed this position of power to control the people!"

    "Did you really think that our influence over the masses has anything to do with the fact that our asses are sitting in these chairs?" NTG Rarity scoffed. "To tell you the truth, we've been trying to get our asses seated into something more comfortable for quite some time."

    "We already have power that comes straight from the ruler of the universe." FG Discord boasted. "A job like this that only gives us domain over one world is merely a side chore for us that we're better off without. Nearly eighteen years of this shit is enough, even for all-powerful gods like us..."

    "Wait, so you called us over here to pass the buck on us just because you're bored and lazy?" an annoyed Spira and Nero retorted.

    "Exactly!" NTG Rarity and FG Discord exclaimed, both wearing wide, cheerful smiles on their faces. "So have fun with the job!"

    With that, FG Discord clicked his fingers, and he and NTG Rarity vanished with puffs of smoke. Both Nero and Spira had confounded, irritated looks on their faces as they sat on the thrones the idiosyncratic gods had left behind, and still had the same looks on their faces they had back then as they recapped this story to the Helllights and the Nightbringers…

    "So that's how it happened?" a perplexed Gordon asked. "They called you in so they could give the throne over to you?"

    "I...suppose that's what went down." an equally perplexed Nero replied.

    "What oddballs." Vincent chimed in. "I'm not too shocked, however. The impression I got from them the night we first saw them was that they were the "chaotic and comical" type of evil."

    "The kind who don't want power, fortune, or glory…" Ricard solemnly interjected. "They only want to watch the world burn…"

    "Honestly, you can't really expect much more from psychotic, omnipotent, cosmic deities." Trish voiced her thoughts. "I'd be bored with no one to match my power myself."

    "Speaking of matching power," intervened Vergil, "I'd like to address the big picture…"

    "Yeah…" Dante followed along. "Though those gods haven't committed any recent atrocities that we know of, they're obviously still a threat. Not only have they been leading so many to live a lie for all these years, manipulating the general public, they were also able to manipulate all of us, including Akame. And she was the strongest villain we've ever fought."

    "Oh, you ain't seen nothing yet, hee hee hee…" Nero thought to himself, fighting the urge to chuckle evilly. While he was able to disguise what was really on his mind from the soldiers, Spira felt a bad premonition.

    "Nero…" Spira said to herself in thought, concerned. "I hope you're not thinking what I'm thinking. That the reason you're looking into the secrets of this world and the powers that be in it is not to protect the people, but to prove that you and the devil are the strongest…"

    Even though both the Helllights and the Nightbringers couldn't read Nero like Spira could, they still didn't know if they could put their full trust in their king. And even though they remained silent, their facial expressions showing no feelings or ideas of disloyalty, Nero already had an idea of what they actually felt…

    "You can hide it all you want…" Nero thought. "But I know from experience what people like you tend to think of me. You can even respect me and still have legitimate doubts about my integrity, believing I am a shady character. Not that I blame you. I also trust no one...and it's the truth that I am not trustworthy myself. Still, I need both you and the masses to view me as a reputable figure, or else my entire plan will be ruined…"

    Ninja Time God Rarity and Fantasy God Discord, knowing what was going on inside his head, chortled to themselves.

    Are you getting bored of all this talking? I'm getting bored of all this talking.

    NTG Rarity said those words as she and her partner set eyes on the church of Pies.

    Ditto. I feel that we owe the fans some action...I just hope this isn't too much fanservice for our good friend Nero, ho ho…

    FG Discord said those words in a foreboding tone of voice as he got out his book and pen.

    Don't speak as if we're just doing this for him. You know as well as I do how we want to see him react to this.

    NTG Rarity told that to FG Discord.

    Oh, I know we're not on his side or anyone else's. I just love to bring everyone in on the fun…

    Back at Nero and Spira's castle, they had dismissed the Helllights and the Nightbringers, who were now returning home.

    "You know," said Gordon, "there's always something that bothers me about King Nero. Does anyone else feel the same way?"

    "You may as well be asking us if ponies eat hay." Vincent retorted. "Not just us, every guard in the castle tells me that he gives them the creeps."

    "It's strange…" Ricard interjected. "I never get the impression that he's evil, but nothing about his demeanor tells me that he's good either."

    "Heh, that wouldn't be a crime to me." Dante made a rejoinder. "I don't believe in anyone being "good or evil", I just believe that all of us have a good side and a bad side. What really matters is how you express that good side and bad side. Some choose to do it in a way that's constructive, others in a way that's destructive."

    "Since you said what was on my mind well enough," chimed in Trish, "I'll add that the problem with our king is that he's not expressing either side to us at all. He's hiding something and believes that we're too stupid to find out for ourselves what it is."

    "And that's where the action comes in…" Vergil spoke in tandem. "I believe that our king has already discovered the kind of strength needed to take down those insane gods. The reason he is withholding the information on how to acquire that power from us, I believe, is to keep the source of his strength a secret. But unfortunately for him, I've already done research on what I think that source is...the unity of light and darkness."

    With that being said, everyone stopped dead in their tracks, distracted by what they couldn't believe…

    Meanwhile, Nero and Spira were eating lunch together at the royal table with fellow nobles. While Spira didn't seem too thrilled, along with the other guests at the table, barely touching their food, Nero was happily helping himself to one of Princess Luna's old favorites…

    "Ah, this roast pork is simply divine!" he proclaimed. "Such delicacies are best shared with friends!"

    The confused nobles just stared and watched as they muttered to themselves things like…

    "I didn't know our king wasn't even into eating etiquette…"

    "I didn't even know we ate meat…"

    "Aren't pigs people too? Wait...is it okay to call ponies people? Should I call the pigs ponies?"

    After finishing chowing on the cut of pork, Nero looked at his quiet and unenthused sister and guests and chortled.

    "Why is everyone so reserved?" he remarked cheekily. "I thought you were here to have a buffet, not a study session over coffee at a cafe!"

    "Brother…" Spira addressed Nero, saving one of the guests the trouble. "We have not yet said a prayer…"

    "Prayer?" Nero cockily retorted. "What, are we having lunch after a church service? Who would I be praying to and for what?"

    Spira slammed her front hooves on the table and pulled her chair back in annoyance.

    "Please excuse my brother and I…" she requested of the guests of the table as she left. "This lunch is temporarily postponed. Please come with me, brother, I must speak to you alone…"

    Despite being just as confounded as the nobles now, Nero followed Spira outside of the dining room and to the hallway outside of their bedrooms.

    "Don't keep me in suspense too long…" Nero continued to speak sarcastically. "What did I do that was so vile you couldn't tell me about right then?"

    "You know it's not just one thing…" Spira replied. "It's the way you act in general that's concerning to me."

    "Another favorite of mine, generalization." Nero made another rejoinder. "Just write me a list of everything I've done wrong, why don't you?"

    "I could…" Spira played along with the joke. "...but I don't want us to be here all day. Besides, you shouldn't need me to be telling you what you've done wrong. Don't tell me you can't see how scarfing food at a royal banquet without even saying a prayer first can be seen as discourteous."

    "I don't give a shit how others "see what I do."." Nero replied, growing more serious and firm in his tone. "You should be with me, not against me, in standing up for what we want to do instead of pandering to everyone. Our "happy Sunday school days" in church are over. We make the rules now, and we are not obligated to please anyone."

    "So you're saying you don't want our people to be happy?" Spira asked.

    "If they're not happy, then what are we supposed to do about it?" Nero answered. "If you don't mind forcing yourself to be something you're not to please them, fine. But I'm sick and tired of it. It's not in my nature to have friends. It's not in my nature to click with others. If I can't even get anyone to like this "fake me" I have to be, what's the point of trying to get them to like the "real me"?"

    Spira silently gave her brother a gloomy stare before she shook her head and said…

    "Oh Nero...your understanding of the problem I have with you is entirely wrong...I'm not mad at you for only half-heartedly lying to everyone about who you really are...I'm mad at you for lying to everyone in the first place! Why do you think I would ever want you to be so dishonest and complacent that you would actually rather just be someone you're not instead of finding the courage to be yourself?!"

    Nero couldn't counter what his sister had told him. If everything what as it seemed, she would've hit the nail on the head.

    "She still doesn't believe that I'm a monster…" he told himself in thought, shaken and sad. "Why...why after every shady thing that I've done does she still have hope in me?! Is it wrong for me to just tell her how screwed up I actually am? Or is it wrong to lie and have her believe that everything's okay? Why…"

    Nero then began to clutch the back of his head with his front hooves in frustration before lifting his head up and bellowing…

    "WHY DOES EVERYTHING HAVE TO BE SO FUCKED UP?! JUST GIVE ME AN ANSWER ON WHAT'S RIGHT AND WRONG!"

    All of a sudden, Spira and Nero could hear one of the guests breathing heavily from behind as he came out from the dining room to get to them in the halls.

    "Oh shit…" Nero said as he turned to the aghast noble. "Listen dude, what I said was just an overreaction. We weren't discussing anything serious, I just got a little carried a-"

    "DEMON!" the hysterical noble abruptly shouted, interrupting Nero and sending a chill down his spine.

    "It's happened again…" he thought. "I couldn't keep my mouth shut again, and now I'm going to pay for it...AGAIN. My words...WHY IS IT ALWAYS OVER MY WORDS AND THE STUPIDEST LITTLE THINGS I DO?! WHY CAN'T I JUST TAKE SOME-"

    Nero was interrupted again, this time by a scene of blood...to the horror of both his sister and him, the noble was stabbed in the back through the chest by a red demon clad in black scales.

    "HEE HEE HEE!" the demon cackled evilly, looking at the noble with his claw in his chest. "GO ON! SCREAM YOUR HEAD OFF! LET IT RIP!"

    The poor noble couldn't scream, gasping for air in fear and pain before the demon brought his hand up to tear through the noble's body even more, bringing his hand out through his head and killing him.

    "But that's fine too…" the demon mocked the dead noble who collapsed to the floor, bleeding all over the carpet. "I DON'T MIND DOING THE RIPPING FOR YOU! MWA HA HA HA HA!"

    The demon then turned to taunt the asphyxiated Spira and Nero.

    "What's the matter?" he scoffed. "Are you just going to let me and my friends kill your subjects? You're more useless than them if that's your plan…"

    However, Spira and Nero's paralysis from shock came to an end when they saw something that woke them up...it was the dead noble's soul leaving his body, only to be grabbed by the demon that killed him…

    "Because at least these weaklings will provide us with nourishment!" the demon proclaimed as he gave the soul a terrifying glare. "MWA HA HA HA HA!"

    Upon seeing the soul, Nero felt a strange sensation course through his body as he impulsively licked his lips…

    *BANG* *BANG* *SPLURT*

    "Action." Nero finished the thought he couldn't finish earlier as a new scene of blood took place before his eyes. The demon now laid dead on the floor before his sister and him, killed by a shot from a gun that went through the bottom of his jaw and blew his head off. Spira had manifested the spirit of Fluttershy, who had fired an explosive bullet from a familiar red and white-striped gun at the demon, by her side.

    "Hmph." she went as she looked over at her brother and reacted to his demeanor. "You know you can't fight these guys like that."

    "Bah…" Nero responded in frustration, even though he knew that what his sister was referring to wasn't his character, but his ineffective action against the demon. He had transformed his right foreleg into a gun to shoot the demon in the forehead with a bullet of compressed dark energy. It had proven to be of minimal help however, as the bodies of demons were composed of dark energy, proven by the red, bloody mess the dispatched one made on the carpet dissipating into dark mist.

    "Yeah…" Nero said to himself in a demoralized tone of voice. "What was I thinking? Mom would never take on a demon with a gun…"

    Despite painful memories of his evil soul mother, Noimman, cackling as she committed murder, Nero realized that he would have to fight at full strength in order to save the souls of his subjects...he had to take action…

    *SHING*

    In the dining room, the friends of the murderous demon were laughing as they looked upon the corpses of the other nobles. All of them had fallen prey to the demons, who had ripped through their vital organs with their deadly claws. They had also cut off their heads and limbs, putting them on plates in preparation for a feast of their own. Seated at the dining table, they devoured the pony flesh like Nero had devoured the pork earlier.

    "Hmph." one of them said in dissatisfaction, blood dripping from his mouth. "Meat isn't enough."

    "Agreed." another one concurred. "After all the shit that's gone down with losing Akame, then Noimman, and all of our comrades constantly getting killed by Myra and friends, there's no way we can even the score just by tearing up and eating the flesh of a few mortals…we need to take away something from them that's immortal..."

    "Well," chimed in another one giddily, "seeing as they've not yet departed to the Dark-"

    *VROOM* *CLASH* *CLANG* *SHING* *SHING*

    The demon was suddenly interrupted by Nero dashing across the table at lightning fast speed, having slipped into the dining room undetected with shadow travel. He had propelled himself across the table and spun himself around like a top to cut all the demons at the table to pieces, using his own forelegs that he had transformed into blades of dark energy. Blood and remains of the demons' heads and upper bodies flew everywhere before they landed in various areas, melting and dissipating into dark mist.

    "They may safely depart to the Dark Sky now." Nero said solemnly as he transformed his forelegs back to normal. "But they can stay here too if that works better for them. Unlike you fools, they haven't overstayed their welcome."

    Still lingering, the souls of the dead nobles had seen Nero in action, and in response, were both fascinated...and frightened.

    "Our king disposed of those abominable monsters so easily...using the power and technique of a monster. Who is he really?"

    Nero could feel the same sensation from earlier course through his body, and he got a crazed look on his face as he licked his lips again…

    "I can sense them…" he said to himself giddily. "They're not showing themselves out of fear for me...which is a good thing, because I don't know what I might end up doing if I see them…"

    Nero felt himself entering some sort of trance as he began to salivate and think about the thrill of absorbing new power into himself…

    "NERO!"

    Nero snapped out of it as he heard his sister yell from behind. Turning to look at her, he saw that she had a serious expression on her face.

    "We both need to be on full alert here!" Spira exclaimed. "Just because we've killed the demons here doesn't mean we're out of the woods! There's no way they'd just attack the dining room of the castle and call it a day. There must be others somewhere else wreaking havoc!"

    "You're right." Nero agreed with his sister's surmisal. "I almost wish I had left one of them alive now so that I could interrogate it, but it's too late for that anyways. Regardless, there's no way both of us can leave the castle unguarded to go look for them if they were able to do something like this while we were here. I hate to doubt our men, but I don't think they'd be enough to protect the castle if a swarm of them were to show up. We need to recall some of our best soldiers. One of us needs to find the Helllights and the Nightbringers and get them back here!"

    "...Tactically, that seems like the best action…" Spira replied, despite being hesitant.

    "He is correct…" Spira told herself in thought. "But I have a bad feeling about leaving him alone, in both scenarios. If I send him out to get the Helllights and Nightbringers alone, he might do something crazy with them...but if I leave him here alone with those souls…"

    "So what do you say, sis?" Nero asked. "Should I get them or should you?"

    "...I'll get them." Spira answered. "If I have to aid them in a fight they're caught in, I feel I'll be more compatible as backup."

    "That's fine with me." Nero replied. "So long as we both do our best to protect everyone, we'll brave through this!"

    "Right!" Spira exclaimed. "Best of luck to you!"

    It was then that Spira put her front hooves together, one brimming with light energy and the other with dark energy. In a flash, she disappeared, teleporting out of the castle.

    "It's not just that I don't trust him alone with the Helllights and Nightbringers…" Spira said to herself as she began the search for them. "I also don't need the Helllights and Nightbringers distrusting him if he can't control himself around them in the heat of battle. He's better off alone in a place we both know…huh?"

    But what Spira couldn't have predicted was the terrifying phenomenon taking place right over another place that she and Nero both knew…

    "Is that a vortex…" she asked herself in horror as she saw the spiral of light and darkness in the sky. "...over the church of Pies?!"

    Spira also couldn't have predicted that the Helllights and the Nightbringers were going to need help from both of them if they were to overcome the challenge NTG Rarity and FG Discord had prepared for them to face...she would have to face who her brother was really…

    "Oh, Mom...Dad…" Nero said in a chilling tone of voice. "Please forgive me...I wish it didn't have to be this way...I wish that I wasn't a demon...I wish I didn't have to...EAT YOU."

  8. God, that Yuri misspelling was priceless. XD Though I will point out, Hayden, that it was Ami in the image, not Yumi. :P This is Yumi.

    CartoonYumi.jpg

    SOF's riffs were great in Episode 8, some of his best. The Hunter is easily the most sinister villain so far...but not in a good way. They make him out to be a simple thief after he poisons a bunch of people, abducts a woman who never gets seen again (:peridot:), and he tosses a lethal weapon at others. Like, what the fuck.

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  9. You guys missed out on the perfect opportunity for an As Told by Ginger joke. DX (Previous comment)

    Okay, seriously, I'm not going to comment like that on every single riff from now on. :P I really liked Katniss' riffs and everyone did a good job breaking down what didn't work about the plot. I liked how there was finally a twist that genuinely surprised me at the end, but I didn't like how it surprised me for mostly the wrong reason, being accustomed to the predictability of this show. 

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  10. 12 hours ago, President Squidward said:

    It's such a shame to see this channel get so much hate at the moment. I mean, it was better back in 2015, but this hate has gone so far to the point where crappy Youtube cartoon channels always make videos with clickbait titles and thumbnails just to bring in those sweet, sweet viewers. I'd be fine with it if...

    A. It wasn't done so much.

    B. They actually put effort into their videos to show they know what they're talking about. Quality over quantity. 

    C. Some videos make straight up lies to make CN look bad, like for example, this video:

     

     

    It's act like it's going to be some live-action show on Cartoon Network, when it's just some stage show over there in the Middle East, which made people misunderstand in the comments and ranting more about this channel for no reason, all because of these effortless clickbait videos.

    I even got into a pointless debate with someone on this video called "OK KO! Ratings are Rapidly Decreasing" over the Teen Titans Go and bad scheduling bullshit. I will put in spoilers because there's 8 screenshots. They're long debates, but are worth the read. 

     

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    @Metal Snake, I like you, but I disagree with you on the above post so much. A lot of people don't even watch cartoons, old or new legally online. There's not many cartoons on Netflix or Hulu from what I've seen. If that were so, then how come sites such as Kimcartoon.me exist? And this youtube channel I mentioned in the pics I posted who's from the Phillipines and leaks stuff from the app before they even premiere like a few days to weeks before: 

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCskIi930FWkEDTcUF4u-S4Q

    It's proof that's one of the reasons why all of the other CN shows are getting way lower ratings than Teen Titans Go, and don't give me that lack of promotion bull. I've been recording breaks of this channel every day since 2014. They promote the heck out of most of their shows (only ones they don't promote are/were Uncle Grandpa (rip :(), Adventure Time (it's lost its luster anyway, still a shame though), Mighty Magiswords, PPG 2016, and acquired programming). Sure, watching leaks illegally isn't the ONLY reason why those shows aren't getting good ratings, but it's a big part of it.

    If people are so mad about their shows doing bad, blame the fans who have the resources TO watch it legally (the CN APP, or watch the new episode when it comes on, people upload CN promos all the time, CN lets you know on social media and there's people who do CN schedule archives).

    If you want to debate with me on this, I'd love to do a mature debate. ;)

     

     

    First of all, I'll get out of the way that I did not literally mean Cartoon Network never plays or promotes their shows. I meant that they're not being played at times that a lot of people find convenient. Not just because of the TTG marathons they don't want to sit through, but also because of work and other interferences. Also, this post was made around the time where the TTG oversaturation was peaking. Hell, O.K. KO! Heroes wasn't even out yet.

    Second, of course a lot of people watch cartoons online, legally and illegally. Have you even seen the decline of the ratings in cartoons on any channel besides Cartoon Network? Even though Cartoon Network's already a good enough example with TTG's ratings declining too, and not just their other shows? Look at the ratings, for let's say, The Simpsons or Family Guy, two primetime shows back in 2008. Back when cable TV was still strong despite illegal uploads of cartoons on the internet being a big thing. Then look at their ratings after the landscape of TV started shifting more towards the internet.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Simpsons_episodes

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Family_Guy_episodes

    "WELL THAT'S BECAUSE THEY SUCK NOW"

    No, that's not the reason. People simply don't watch cable TV like they used to.

    Third, why are you using anecdotal evidence to try and go up against a fact? Not only have I seen cartoons on internet-connected TVs...

    https://www.whats-on-netflix.com/top-lists/top-10-cartoon-network-shows-netflix/

    https://www.hulu.com/network/cartoon-network

    It's a fact that they are a thing. And I know CN had to take some of their Netflix shows off because of Warner Bros.' BS, but that's beside the point. And the reason illegal sites for hosting that shit exist is because some people, like me, are cheap bastards. Granted, I wouldn't use Kimcartoon.me, but it exists because you have to pay for Netflix and Hulu.

    I...don't see what there is to debate. I do agree that if people like Cartoon Network's new shows, and they're accessible to them, they should be supporting them. But everything else is a huge gray area. I wasn't trying to say it's right to pirate shit, I was just trying to remain neutral and put the facts first.

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  11. Episode 17: Light in Hell

    Just as the Jaegers became the light of hell, the Nightbringers will become the darkness of hell, and show their world a power even greater than Yin and Yang with the help of their queen and king…

    Terra was in her bedroom, holding a crystal ball that held a floating blob of light inside of it.

    "I won't betray your memory, Leo…" Terra said to herself solemnly.

    She was looking at the crystal ball she held in her hooves as she sat down on her bed.

    "How did I overcome the fact that my husband had become a ghost…" Terra told herself, wearing a morbid expression on her face. "It's quite simple, really. When the body dies, the soul lives on. That I've believed since I was very young. But in recent times, that belief hasn't brought me the same comfort that it used to. Maybe because I once thought that when the soul left the body, it was supposed to be free. But now…"

    Terra envisioned a dark mist consuming the light inside of the crystal ball.

    "...Now that I realize that even the souls of the good can be entombed in darkness despite doing nothing to deserve it…" Terra continued as her tone of voice grew more bitter and angry. "...that solace just doesn't have the same magic that it used to have…"

    Terra then grimaced and shut her eyes as she remembered their laughs...the evil laughs of Noimman and King Sombra as the one she loved most was consumed by the darkness...and an even crueler fate was given to the one she swore to protect…

    When she opened her eyes, her entire body was glowing with an aura of light.

    "I have to make it up to them…" she said to herself sincerely. "I will rectify the wrongs of the past and chart a course of light for the future!"

    With that, she made her way to Nero's bedroom, taking the crystal ball with her.

    "Get ready, honey…" she told herself in thought. "Mommy's done babying you. I sheltered you too much, and it's time you learned some real world skills…"

    After Nero and Spira's "debate" had spiraled into chaos, both of them had retired to their rooms. Spira was on her bed brooding, looking down at her front hooves as she thought of how she was going to cope with this.

    "What did I do wrong?" she asked herself in a crestfallen tone of voice. "I thought God would be there with me as I spoke my mind against something that I knew was obviously wrong. Was I wrong in wanting to help my brother see the truth?"

    Spira's sadness soon began to turn to anger as she started trying to look at things from another perspective…

    "Or…" she said to herself as she started to surmise something more cynical, just as her brother had done. "Have I just not been thinking outside the box? What is the truth, after all? And if God is the truth, why is his existence not clear to me or my brother? It makes me wonder…"

    As Spira said that, her body began to emit an aura of light and the apparition of Fluttershy began to manifest beside her. Looking at it, she asked herself for the first time in her life…

    "What is this spirit, really?"

    In the adjacent bedroom, it was shown that Nero, by contrast, was not so interested in exactly what Noimman, the apparition that was beside him, really was. Just the very fact that he finally had something to believe in that made perfect sense to him, he was completely mesmerized by. Looking at his forelegs, he had a creepy, smug smile on his face as he transformed them into dark energy.

    "I'm not afraid of it anymore…" he boasted triumphantly. "I have power now, actual power! Ha ha ha ha ha! And to think there was a time where I thought going to church every Sunday and singing Kumbaya with a bunch of close-minded bores was doing anything for me! It's all just for the delusion of "inner peace". How sad, ha ha ha…"

    "I see…" Terra said upon entering Nero's bedroom, overhearing what he had just said and witnessing what he was doing. "So part of the reason this has happened so soon is because you're under a delusion of grandeur..."

    "Huh?" Nero responded, turning to face his mother, as Noimman did the same. "What are you going on about?"

    "Don't play me for a fool, Nero." Terra retorted indignantly with a serious look on her face. "I heard everything that happened downstairs. You owe your sister a huge apology."

    "For what?" Nero asked. "Telling her the truth? Speaking my mind? It's not like I said anything offensive."

    "Your words aren't what bugged me…" Terra replied, standing her ground. "It was your intent. You knew that Spira had no chance of "winning" that argument with you, yet you kept rubbing in that you were right to satisfy your own sadistic pleasure!"

    "Hmm?" Spira went, overhearing Terra express her grievances to Nero from her room. "Why is Mom mad at Nero? If she knew about the conversation we were having downstairs and had a problem with the way he was acting, why didn't she just put a stop to it right there and send him to his room?"

    "Ha ha ha ha ha!" Nero laughed. "This is too rich. So you admit that I was right, yet you tell me I was wrong just because you're assuming the worst of me! Feelings before facts, I love it! Let's just say for sake of argument that I was too harsh on her. Who cares? The world's harsh on everyone that way. Getting them to believe in a lie built up by a long-term con of convenient half-truths before they get slammed with the brutal full truth. I had to go through it, so why shouldn't she go through it too?"

    In response, Terra remained silent and her angry expression faded. Something very unexpected was taking hold of her...

    "Booya, I'm on a roll!" Nero thought to himself, feeling confident as he saw his mother's expression become blank. However, his confidence soon became concern when he saw his mother start to smile and laugh to herself.

    "Ho ho ho ho ho…" Terra snickered. "Don't get so cocky just because you taught him how to debate...Noimman."

    "So you can see me…" Noimman retorted as she showed herself floating beside Nero, still smiling unlike him. "Big whoop."

    "Oh, it's more than just a "big whoop"..." Terra taunted as she tossed the crystal ball and caught it. "I came to try to talk things out with Nero, but it seems I'm going to have a use for this thing after all…"

    "Why don't you go hide somewhere, Nero?" Noimman told her son. "It's high time I taught this fool who dared to humiliate me who's boss…"

    Terra then began to chant an indecipherable incantation…

    "What in the world is going on now?!" Spira thought to herself from her bedroom. "Is there someone else in there? What is mom doing? ...Huh…"

    Spira then noticed that the apparition of Fluttershy next to her was smiling as her eyes began to glow bright white.

    "It's finally time…" the spirit of Fluttershy said.

    "You can talk?" Spira replied. "And it's finally time for what?"

    "For the final two heroes to discover the power of Yin and Yang." the spirit of Fluttershy answered. "Once you two have mastered it and have destroyed the threat that has taken hold of this world, everyone may begin their final ascension towards The Eternal Three through Starcatch…"

    One of Fluttershy's memories then flashed through Spira's head, the swirling vortex of darkness and light above a colossal tower...it reminded her of what she had seen in her brother's eyes…

    "I get it now…" Spira said to herself in thought. "That's why God has allowed this to happen...the only thing that would drive me to awakening my powers of light was my brother discovering the power of darkness!"

    "And that's only part of the reason." Fluttershy replied, her eyes returning to normal. "God is far craftier than any mortal could ever comprehend."

    Spira snickered to herself in response.

    "Let me guess...you actually are God, aren't you?" she surmised.

    "No," answered Fluttershy, "I am only a piece of God. I am a clone of the former God, who longer exists as herself, but as part of the Eternal Three."

    "The Trinity?" Spira asked in confusion. "Wait...so...that's how God can exist as a separate entity despite being part of the Trinity? He...cloned himself?"

    "It's...not important to ask questions like that." Fluttershy responded with a chuckle. "Even if I gave you an answer, it wouldn't have any effect on the story of your life."

    "That is the story of my life." a bemused Spira retorted. "Asking questions that no one in the church wants to answer."

    "I know it's frustrating," consoled an empathetic Fluttershy, "but understand that if every question had a clear answer, the story of your life would provide you with no true challenge, no real adventure. It's not that God is just uncaring or incompetent, it's that he wants you to grow on your own. Discover the truth for yourself, so that you will have the satisfaction of being the one who brought your world one step closer to being ready for the spiriting…"

    Spira felt a resurgence of hope as she saw what looked like a star gleam in the spirit of Fluttershy's eyes…and then she remembered the look in Nero's eyes again…

    "Nero…" she told herself. "I have to help him get back on the right track!"

    It was then, however, that Spira realized that things had gotten disturbingly quiet in the other room…

    "...The optimist in me says that they worked things out civilly…" Spira said to herself suspiciously. "...But that same optimist also told me that all I needed to do to help my brother was pray and wait for things to work out…"

    Spira then walked out of her bedroom, the spirit of Fluttershy still floating beside her, and walked towards her brother's bedroom.

    "Regardless of what's happened, I believe it's time to take action…" she thought.

    She then entered Nero's bedroom, slowly opening the door to discover a disturbing sight that she did not expect at all...her mother sitting on the floor, staring at the crystal ball with a maniacal look on her face. Noticing Spira's entrance, she began to cackle.

    "Ooooohhhhh…" she said creepily as she turned to face Spira. "What a perfect time for you to show up. Now the family is all together. You, me, Nero, and Leo…"

    "...L-Leo?" a rightfully uncomfortable Spira replied. "You told us he died…"

    "He did," replied Terra in an ominous tone of voice, "but he never left us. There was a time I thought he did, but I now see the error of my way of thinking. I don't blame myself too much, though. After all…"

    Spira was taken aback as her mother held out the crystal ball, revealing that there was a dark mist inside of it...a dark mist with the face of her brother…

    "IT WAS YOUR SELFISH BROTHER AND HIS BITCH OF A MOTHER WHO KEPT HIM FROM US." Terra told her in a maddening tone of voice.

    "W-what are you talking about?!" Spira yelled. "What did you do to Nero?!"

    "I gave him a well-deserved time-out." Terra replied, still speaking in a creepy tone of voice. "This is his punishment. This is what he deserves not just for what he said to you, but for what he did to my husband…"

    "Huh?" Nero responded from a dark area. "Yeah, what is she talking about? A time-out? Is that what she calls it?"

    "So you sealed him in crystal?!" Spira questioned, still indignant. "For how long?!"

    "Until further notice." Terra answered. "Do you have a problem with that?"

    "Yes!" Spira exclaimed. "Just because Nero's been acting out doesn't mean you have to treat him like he's some evil demon who needs to be locked away!"

    "...Spira?" Nero asked himself. "You're standing up for me? Even after what I did to you?!"

    "Ho ho ho ho ho!" Terra laughed. "Come on, I raised you better than this, Spira! You can't be this gullible! Nero is an evil demon. He was born that way!"

    "What?!" Nero exclaimed to himself in thought. "She knew the whole time?! That cunt!"

    "Mom…" Spira said in astonishment. "You have to be joking. Please tell me this is part of some cruel, sick joke. If that was true, why did you never tell us for all these years? No one is born an evil demon, all of us have a chance of salvation. That's the entire reason we go to church. That's the entire reason you brought us there, to save us from falling victim to the world's evil. Because you love us. It's because you love us that you wanted us to know the truth."

    Upon hearing those words, Terra became silent for some time, as she could see something in her daughter that she hadn't before, something that she herself desired. She eventually responded to her daughter by saying…

    "Yes. That's right. How could I have ever forgotten that? How could I say such a horrible thing about my own son?"

    "?!" Nero went in response. His sister was equally surprised at how easily she relented.

    "You...you mean it?" Spira asked suspiciously, wondering if this was like the trick Nero had pulled on her earlier. "As in, you truly believe that Nero is not a demon?"

    "Of course I don't really think that," replied Terra in a remorseful tone of voice, "I just caught up in my emotions as I thought back to the tragedy that happened with your father. Nero is a good soul, he has just been corrupted by the dark forces that have taken hold of him. And now that I can see in you what I see now, I realize that you're the only one who can save him…"

    A wide, hopeful grin was made on Spira's face as she realized what Terra was talking about…

    "You can see it, can't you?" Spira asked as the spirit of Fluttershy beside her gave Terra a friendly wave.

    "No way…" Nero remarked to himself. "She has power just like mine...incredible...I'm actually impressed..."

    "Indeed I can." Terra answered as she returned the smile and bowed her head in respect. "I am beyond impressed that you were able to convene a spirit of light that exemplifies God. Most ponies in the church never even come close to such a feat, especially at such a young age."

    "Most ponies also never come close to summoning a spirit of darkness at their side or transforming part of their body into pure energy…" Nero commented to himself in frustration, now miffed. "No bias here…"

    "Please don't flatter me." Spira replied, blushing. "I don't really feel like it was any work on my end. God is the one who deserves the credit for allowing an emissary of his to work through me."

    "Aaaaawwwww…" Terra went. "And you're completely humble about it too. You truly are a model devout. I really don't feel an apology is enough for how I acted now. So how about this? Since Nero still owes you an apology, how about I let you be the one to decide when he goes free?"

    "Tee hee hee…" Spira chuckled naughtily. "I won't deny it, I do like that offer. I'll make sure to let Nero go as soon as he's learned his lesson. Now that I have real power that I can show him, I'm sure it won't be long before he sees the error of his ways…"

    At first, Nero growled in frustration at this mockery. He thought about saying something, but after thinking it over, he started snickering to himself as he got a better idea…

    Terra then handed over the containment crystal to Spira, who happily took it in hoof.

    "I did it…" she said to herself jubilantly, making her way out of the bedroom as she held the crystal up. "I have real power now...and I can use it to help the world!"

    However, as Spira went out into the hall, she felt something very off about the Fluttershy spirit beside her. Her happiness turned to worry as she saw the spirit's eyes turn green and ooze a purple haze as they met contact with the crystal.

    "Sombra…" the spirit of Fluttershy said. "That's not your brother...that's King Sombra!"

    Spira realized she had been tricked after hearing Fluttershy's warning, and immediately dropped the crystal, which fell to the floor but didn't break due to having magical protection. However, she too fell to the floor after she felt a needle enter the back of her neck. Collapsing to the ground beside the crystal, she watched in horror as the spirit of Fluttershy was taken from her side and absorbed into the crystal ball.

    "6500." Terra bluntly stated a number as she walked over to her daughter, kneeling down and pulling out the needle. She showed to her daughter that it was attached to a syringe that had injected her with a poison that had paralyzed her. "Do you have any idea what that number represents?"

    Spira didn't answer, only giving her mother an angry look. She had been deceived again…

    "It's about the amount of days in seventeen years and nine months." Terra explained. "Just let that sink in. The amount of time I've been around you kids, including the amount of time you were in my womb, is only a fraction of the amount of chances I've had to kill you. And why does that fact not horrify you? Because you believe that I love you and would never do such a thing. But that amount of time also shows just how long you've been believing a lie…"

    "Why…" Spira grumbled furiously, only having the chance to say so much from the poison in her throat. "Why, why, WHY?!"

    "If it makes you feel any better, I intend none of this for evil." Terra told Spira as she took the crystal, tossing it and catching it as she stood up. "I hid the truth from you kids because I never wanted you to get involved with the demon shit that killed my husband. But those fools in the church failed to keep even my son pure, and now it is time for them to pay… With the combined power of light and darkness, I will be able to conquer the world!"

    Terra laughed evilly and walked away as Spira continued to struggle, but soon passed out, unable to fight the poison any longer.

    "No…" Spira said to herself in the darkness. "That is not my mother. My mother is not a cartoon villain...she's possessed...she has to be possessed...how did she even know about Yin and Yang?! But what's the point if I'm powerless? What's the point if God won't lift a finger to help me or stop this?!"

    Heh heh heh...don't ask God to do the devil's work…

    "Huh?" Spira said in response to those words as she awoke to find that it was nighttime. She was still lying on the floor, having not fully recovered from the paralysis yet, when all of a sudden, the unconscious body of Terra was dropped in front of her. "W-what…"

    "Splendid." Nero complimented his sister, looking down at her, holding the crystal ball Terra had taken with levitation magic. "I saw everything that happened under the cover of the shadows. The spirit of my real mother taught me how to hide in them, and I see that you too have learned how to communicate with your soul parent. I'm not being sarcastic, I sincerely mean it when I say that you deserve praise for showing me that there is power in God. That helped me realize that Satan intended for her to be my target, not you. I guess I really do owe you an apology now..."

    "What happened to Mom?" Spira asked as she looked at her mother and saw that her eyes were without pupils. "What did you do to her?"

    "I took her soul…" Nero answered. "I imprisoned it somewhere she won't escape from until she learns her lesson. If you want to use her terminology, I gave her a time-out. Is that a problem?"

    "...No." Spira replied, suppressing her suspicions as she realized that she had no proof that Terra was possessed. Even if Nero was lying, he had the upper hand, so she begrudgingly took him on faith. However, this situation did remind her of something Terra said that had been bugging the hell out of her…

    "Leo…" Spira said impulsively as she looked up at Nero. "Our father...Mom was saying something about her husband...did you have anything to do with him disappearing?"

    "Nothing that I know of…" Nero replied in a suspiciously playful tone of voice. "My soul parent, Noimman, didn't tell me much about him...but she did tell me about King Sombra and why I look so much like him...the truth is, I am the one destined to rule over this world as the king of darkness...just as you are the one destined to rule over this world as the queen of light, right by my side…"

    Spira gasped as she felt a reaction coming from the crystal ball that had absorbed the spirits of Fluttershy and King Sombra, which Nero looked upon with a confident grin.

    "I believe it's time we took our rightful places as king and queen…" Nero said brazenly as he levitated the crystal ball down to his sister, then turned around and began to walk away. "Take that ball and follow me whenever you're ready…"

    "You're...not going to take it for yourself?" a confused Spira questioned. "Or destroy it so that it can't be used against you? Why?"

    "I simply don't need it," retorted Nero, "nor do I fear someone using it against me with the power I have now. So I may as well save it for whatever may come up in the future. In the meantime, just hold onto it for yourself and I'll say you owe me and the devil one for lending you the power you need to rule."

    Nero continued to walk away looking smug before he heard his sister fight to stand up and say…

    "Take it back…"

    "Hm?" Nero responded in puzzlement, turning around. "What, is it something I said?"

    "No…" Spira replied, ignoring Nero's joke and holding out the crystal ball. "You know what I mean, the ball. Take it back. I don't want to owe you for giving me power. I don't owe the devil anything!"

    "Sorry, but I'll have to decline." Nero answered, walking back to Spira, still smiling. "You're welcome to pay back your debt any time you wish, but denial of what Satan has done for you will only hold you back. After all, Satan is God and God is him. And until you grasp that concept, how can you ever combine light and darkness…"

    Spira's eyes widened and she trembled at the sight of Nero transforming his right foreleg into a ball of dark energy and his left foreleg into a ball of light energy. Bringing his forelegs together, the balls mixed to form a spiraling sphere of energy that expanded and exploded, blowing Spira back and having her sliding across the floor.

    "...as I can." Nero finished.

    "You…" Spira mustered the strength to say, despite being hurt. "You've already…"

    "That's right." Nero replied, his forelegs returning to normal. "I've already mastered the fusion of Yin and Yang. And I'm waiting for you to do the same. I'll take the crystal back...but only after you show me that you can make a blast like that. MWA HA HA HA HA HA! AH HA HA HA HA HA!"

    After Nero walked away laughing maniacally, Spira retreated to her room. Not only had she been humiliated thrice now, she had lost both her mother and her brother to the darkness in the same day. Rightfully, she was furious. The only thing giving her comfort at the moment was what she saw in the crystal ball. Watching the spirit of Fluttershy shine in the spirit of Sombra's dark mist that enveloped her gave her hope…

    "He lives in no light…" she said to herself sadly. "He lives in hell now...and I feel sorry for him…"

    Spira then started to cry, gaining the attention of both Fluttershy and Sombra.

    "I am going to follow him…" Spira continued to say to herself. "I'll follow him to the deepest part of hell if I have to. If God won't save him, then I will. I will…"

    Spira grabbed the crystal ball, and on impulse, began releasing spiritual energy from her aura and pouring it into the ball. Inside the ball, Fluttershy and Sombra's spirits began to mix together, forming a sphere like the one Nero had made. The sphere soon burst, creating a flood of energy that poured out of the still intact crystal and into Spira, who finished by saying…

    "...be his light in hell…"

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  12. Absolutely love these guys. All These Things That I've Done and Mr. Brightside are still some of my favorite jams after ten years. I'll also occasionally listen to When You Were Young or one of their more underrated songs like Spaceman or Don't Shoot Me Santa just for the hell of it.

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