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  1. there's some incredibly white peeps in this thread lol (was gonna just throw this into discord when this topic was first made but then this got way too long) the Fat and Sassy response i have is to kind of just bluntly admit that even in genres where lyricism plays a huge role i don't get the idea that say, a waka flocka track is inherently worse than something nas made because one track doesn't take itself nearly as seriously or talking about the same topics as the other. you have the right to your opinion and whatnot but i kind of feel general assumptions of most of modern rap just being about drugs fucking and violence kind of amount to really basic accusations based on image. i'm not even really gonna go into how much mileage you can get out of these supposedly worn out topics, through like, different angles on how to approach them, points of specific interest, and so on, i just feel like boiling the genre down to that kind of indicates a lack of awareness in regards to what makes up someone's entire musical consumption. like idk man, should i just immediately discredit the entire genre of hard rock because as someone that doesn't listen to rock music much of the time i just hear most of the 70's classic rock canon being about drugs fucking and violence? idk i kind of feel like if you can't tell the differences between two artists based on how they sound on record (or honestly even lyricism itself in a lot of cases), that's probably a sign you don't really have much interest in the genre to begin with so of course you're gonna end up making reductive comments in regards to the whole genre lol ok maybe i can compare and contrast the deal you have with my own general conundrum going on at the moment for the sake of clarity, because i can relate in a sense; because i've been sick with covid (i'm thankfully in the recovery period) i've been trying to knock some shit off my media bucket list in quarantine and that entails finally getting into anime (ik this will probably make me a stinky discord mod in the end and i'm sorry) (also by the chance you think this is just me stalling for length, i should remind you that there is literally a whole (not exactly lengthy but still) wikipedia article on hip hop's fascination with anime and vice versa). i only have access to what's on netflix and therefore a bunch of stuff i wanted to check out in the genre wasn't on there but even with my limited catalog there's really popular stuff on there... that i just immediately didn't consider. why i haven't gotten too deep into anime as a medium for so long mostly is because of how i've tended to immediately write off stuff like naruto or jojo or bleach or whatnot for years because of a couple factors: they tend to be based in concepts that don't initially interest me personally (mostly the medieval fantasy stuff, for kind of the same reasons that skyrim and dark souls and whatever else just lose me in comparison to the rest of the world), how samey the shows seemed at first glance (though keep in mind like i said before i haven't even watched them before lol) and i had the same impression as most of the internet seems to that the people that do watch anime like those are the scum of the earth (because fans are indeed the thing that makes the product bad, not the product itself. yes i am still living in 2016 how did you guess). (granted those shows are also ass long and i know there's guides online to help me sort out what episodes i can skip when watching a show but my autistic ass kind of demands that when i say i've seen a show in full, i've seen a show in full. but then again the show responsible for this site's creation is currently at 270 episodes as i'm writing this so there's probably a bunch of backwards examples of this i haven't realized yet) as someone who was always interested in the mythos surrounding stuff like toonami and anime cons it slowly dawned on me over the months that for the longest time my immediate shutoff of these shows basically just ended up building fences around my mind preventing me from enjoying a potential hobby but here's the twist; one of the series i immediately shot down when i first went over the list of what they had was hunter x hunter. one day after starting my binge i randomly remembered that when i first went to college and plugged in my tv, one of the internet channels i was able to access was an all-anime channel that was playing a wide variety of shit (tho last i checked it's apparently now a rerun farm of yugioh and bakugan lmao) and it was among the shows in rotation, and i actually quite liked the show when i paid attention to it. and i would say it holds up on a rewatch session of a couple episodes! the other show of the ass-long variety i mentioned that i sat down and gave a chance in the meantime was one piece and i fell asleep midway through the second episode... but that wasn't really the show's fault as much as that's something that happens whenever i try to binge stuff. i could still tell it was a pretty good series probably worth my time if i can shift through... over a thousand episodes.... which is most definitely not happening but who knows. and to be honest, while i certainly love what i've seen of bebop, evangelion, death note... a part of me kind of views those shows as anime for those afraid of admitting to liking anime (moreso the first two i mentioned). like, in a similar way to Those People who say "i don't like rap, but that eminem boy... he's onto something". you obviously know there's more to anime than those three shows i mentioned, in the same way there's obviously much more to rap than the Fast Rappy White Guy, but because all you do is pay attention to the very surface level of what's popular, the whole medium gets judged by it's goofier elements, giving somewhat of an awkward start for those who may otherwise be into this kind of thing (although arguably the people overly devoted to the medium on my side don't help) and seeing whatever reaches a certain threshold of popularity that breaks free from that behavior makes those shows stand out all the more. again not to knock those three shows, they kick ass and are respected as they are for a reason, but it's kind of a feeling in my gut i can't help but wonder how much of their success owes to the fact that they break free of typical genre conventions so people feel more comfortable about enjoying something in a medium they consider nerdy or whatever. not gonna dwell too hard on this because you don't need another person telling you that animation isn't all for a specific group of people but even when watching them i couldn't quite shake this feeling off ok i'm getting off track. but you see the point i'm trying to make where having biases that boil down to not liking things because of how you perceive them to be based off not adhering to specific artistic standards is not only really reductive but also counter-intuitive to general media enjoyment? like, ok, we all have limited brain space, i understand that we all have different ideas of what makes a piece of art good or bad, but at the same time i kind of feel like if you don't get the appeal of a certain type of art and describe it in the grain-like manner you describe (this basically goes for any equivalent of calling a piece of art "nothing", btw), i don't know why it's the art itself to blame and not personal admission that some things your specific mindset doesn't allow you to see. because i hate to break it to you, but all music is just soundwaves. it's all just soundwaves in same way that all film/tv shows are just moving pictures along with soundwaves and all paintings are just marks on a canvas and so on and so on. just cause you hold up certain values when you make judgements doesn't mean that there isn't anything to the art in question (really this is a general thing that's been on my mind that annoys me about the greater world of people critiquing shit, and i'm not even trying to really call out anyone in particular about this because i'm guilty of this myself sometimes lol). this sounds like a put down of sorts, but what i earnestly mean by that is that i do believe every piece of art has some kind of meaning, even if not universal. i guess if you take anything from this, it's that breaking away from pre-established critical conventions used to judge a certain subsection of a medium to instead create new ways of judging something based on vibe or energy or whatever else opens up surprisingly fulfilling opportunities of enjoyment out of what you come across in life. as someone who's gone to a lot of college parties where a dj's playing, to see how happy people are to hear the exact kind of music that cynical types on the internet have had me to believe is apparently indefensible is a contrast that kind of disillusioned me from said vitriolic reactions. to be upfront sometimes i really don't know why people just choose to focus in on their negative emotions when they could be digging the very tiniest bit under the mainstream to find music that they do end up liking. and personally i prefer to listen to music as escapism to begin with, so maybe focusing on different aspects of songs than i'm supposed to pay attention to according to those kinds of people isn't inherently as much of a crime as they make it out to be sometimes then again i really don't like the idea some people have that all music needs to be judged on a literal-minded academic ass "lyrics first and foremost" scale to begin with at the expense of literally everything else the music has to offer i.e melodies, harmonics, flow, the production, etc etc (though granted not like lyrics don't matter at least a bit) to begin with but ANYWAY this is way the fuck too long. why am i still writing long after my fingers have worn out
  2. why did you buy this album. i don't know why you did you're stupid,

  3. so i'm looking through old threads and wowwww i think i can conjure up a pretty decent image of the person who originally made this list and i'm bored so why not see what i can come up with four years later 1. What are you listening to right now? uh... currently going through an essential mix (dj touche, 2004). rn it's the zongamin remix of "manila" by seelenluft. that's a lit track 2. What songs make you sad? music doesn't really make me sad? like i guess there's some moody stuff i play to soundtrack moments of sadness but not anything to specifically incite tonal shifts in my brain 3. What is the most annoying song in the world? idk, uh, that damn "this is gonna be the best day of my liiiife" shit. honestly you really have to try hard to genuinely annoy me but that track really does it for me 4. What is your favorite band in the world? man i guess that i can't even come up with an answer to this should show how much i listen to rock these days 5. Your newly discovered band is? uhh... if we extend this to artists, i've wanted to get into bt for a while now and only really started to listen to his stuff a month ago. pretty great stuff that guy does 6. Best female voice? bjork's still definitely up there, uh... would also like to shoutout kate bush, carly rae, joni mitchell, hayley williams, and a lot more i can't think of right now 7. Best male voice? frank ocean, and young thug. idk usually when it comes to voices i don't mind as long as they hit on great harmonies 8. Music type you find yourself listen to the most? hip hop and electronic stuff 9. What do you listen to hype you up? ^is that not supposed to be hype 10. What do you listen to when you want to calm down? ummm.... i guess those atmo-dnb mixes i put on a playlist when i sleep work for this 11. Last gig/concert you went to? pre-quarantine? uh, might've been a college show of school acts our club put on. it was going to be a noisia show until you know what happened 12. Band you find yourself listening to the most right now? pendulum count kinda!!!!!!! hold your colour was always a favorite in my early high school years, but i only started to delve further into their work recently and i'm glad i did, incredibly addictive and aged much better than i thought they would 13. Most hated band? hate is a strong word and most artists i find it silly to have genuine hate for... but fuckin theory of a deadman i think is the best representation of everything i don't like in music 14. Song that makes you think? am i not supposed to think when i listen to music?????? is this some backpacker shit this person is on 15. Band(/artist, fuck it) you think the world should love as much as you do? uh... not quite sure if "underrated" is the right word to use for matthew herbert as he's much loved in dance music circles but i'm not sure if the general music-seeking audience knows much about him and he just makes the greatest house music ever, i mean damn 16. Coolest music video? idk put any video with shitton of flashing lights here. i like strobes 17. Music video with the most babe watch? bruh 18. What would you play in the bedroom to spice things up? honey, "making orange things" by venetian snares and speedranch stays on during sex 19. Can you play a musical instrument? uhhhh i can work turntables to some extent 20. Ever been in a mosh pit? many times. it's fun for a bit!!! you do tire though 21. Are you in a band? no 22. Ever dated a musician? haven't ever dated period 23. Do you wish that you were a musician? i mean... nothing's stopping me, i just don't have the motivation to learn the ins and outs of music creation software 24. Best chick band you know of? might go back to settling on sleater-kinney... mostly because i'm kinda stuck atm on exclusively female bands i'm into that aren't the given riot grrrl stuff. i swear i'm not doing this intentionally!!!! i'm positive there's a lot of great ones out there edit: actually nah it's black dresses. defo gotta be black dresses 25. Last song that you heard on the radio? fck can't remember... i know it was on a siriusxm radio station, but i don't remember what station it was. 26. What do you think of classical music? shit's for nerds 27. What do you think of country music? there's some good stuff i guess. can't really say i'm much into it overall though 28. What do you think of death metal? honestly one of the few forms of metal music i can appreciate on more than a "that seems to be metal" level. i guess music for the sake of music strikes a chord with me 29. Last big [artist] you saw live? i think dababy when he came to our school campus? not sure 30. Are you a groupie? i like to imagine my adoration of my favorite artists is healthy and doesn't go to creepy territories 31. Do you listen to music in foreign languages? uhhhh i don't mean to not listen to that stuff, foreign pop certainly has lotta bangers... i just don't feel compelled to listen to that stuff often 32. What famous musician would you like to "spend the night with"? yamataka eye and i would probably have the most fun goofing the fuck out. unless this question means what i think it's really about in which case [chance "DOOD" sound clip] 33. Worst concert moment? i've heard that ministry antifa song live (at their double header with death grips, who tbf are probably the best act i've ever seen live... but that was cringe my dude) 34. Funny concert moment? besides stuff that's happened at college shows, can't think of much 35. Sad concert moment? yeah i can't remember any specific moment at a concert that made me sad... poo 36. Best local act you can think of? weirdly enough even though i've had a lot of fun at those college shows, i can't really think of any act that's really stuck with me. oop 37. If you were a musical instrument, what would you be? synthesizer. would make the raddest bleepedy bloops 38. Do you listen to the radio? used to. not really much these days unless i'm in a car 39. Do you watch music TV? does this question mean like, mtv itself? or like, just music-related tv shows. i've been meaning to watch that netflix hip hop series but i'm really bad with tv in general so uh 40. Do you follow the music charts like the top 40? i barely even know what the hell pop music even looks like right now. like this dance monkey track everyone's pissed over, i'm pretty sure i've never heard a single second of it. i guess i can use that to my advantage, judging music fairer now that it's not everywhere i go 41. Have you met any famous musicians? uh... i once talked to kid koala after a show of his. he seemed very nice and his show was really fun. i think that's stretching "famous" though 42. Are any of your friends/family musicians? not that i know of family wise. haven't talked to that guitarist friend in years 43. Song that best describes your feelings right now? "washing up" by tomas andersson. if only because i feel swagged out right now and that song is total swag 44. Song that describes you life? "year of the bad dragon" by the quick brown fox idk i can't come up with a serious answer 45. Do you know the names of all the band members that you listen to? no because i have a life beyond useless trivia 46. Does a musician’s physical attractiveness play a role in the music that you listen to? bruh 47. What famous musician do you want to marry? i'm honestly still not sure about marriage in general 48. Favorite movie soundtrack? not sure, but probably like some ultra-dated 90's electro industrial techno aesthetic shizz. stuff like mortal kombat, hackers, that kind of stuff 49. Any musician pet peeves? ehhhh i think generally any approach to music can be successful in some way. although that said performance capability isn't the same as entertainment value 50. What do your parents listen to? idk, they're like typical top 40 listening people. i know both of them were country music fans at one point but not sure they really explore much beyond that 51. What are you listening to right NOW? uhhh rn in that mix it's this switch remix of this obie trice song wtf does he even mean by this?????? (great mix though. that "the whole world" bit mmmmmmm) 52. Do you wear band t-shirts? have some shirts of labels, a boc one, one afx, a couple others i can't remember 53. Do you cook to music? i would if i actually cooked. sorry lil b 54. Do you sing in the toiler? for years now, "toiler" has been in my vocabulary because of this. bro what compells you to do that in the first place
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